This is what our president judge does. I feel like I should just have a meeting with the President Judge and DA and Head of Probation regarding this issue as well. -----Original Message----- From: chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com <chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com> On Behalf Of Nicole J. Spring Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 10:38 AM To: chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com Subject: RE: Judge Orders I read Parole Rules to Client before they can be released from incarceration After my meeting with APO, the Judges, and DA, a small victory. We are not required to read or advise of probation/parole conditions. At sentencing, the Judges will make sure each person gets a copy of the conditions and put in the Order that they have received them. Nicole -----Original Message----- From: chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com <chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com> On Behalf Of Dave R. Crowley Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 10:11 AM To: chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com Subject: RE: Judge Orders I read Parole Rules to Client before they can be released from incarceration Lycoming County Warning: This is an external email. Please exercise caution. Think Before You Click! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone I think you can also do what you can to try to make the eagle choke on its meal. :) -------- Original message -------- From: "Nicole J. Spring" <NSpring@lyco.org> Date: 7/22/21 7:30 AM (GMT-05:00) To: chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com Subject: RE: Judge Orders I read Parole Rules to Client before they can be released from incarceration **** This email originated from a source outside of Centre County's network. Please use caution before clicking on links and opening attachments. **** Lycoming County is on the same page-- Judges Ordering us to do it. In fact I got an email from a Judge yesterday Ordering that for a bench warrant hearing today, I determine if it will be a plea, and if so, I get to the jail, complete a guilty plea colloquy and review our new parole/probation conditions colloquy and sign it and have him sign it. I have never met the client and have a full schedule until the hearing. I have a meeting with the judges this morning to address their insane reaction. Love the new- - not at sentencing argument and intend to use it this morning at my meeting. I've already argued that it creates a conflict. Thanks, Dave for all the great suggestions. Sometimes all you can do, as the mouse, is flip off the eagle before it eats you. Nicole -----Original Message----- From: chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com <chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com> On Behalf Of Kristin Rice Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:45 PM To: chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com Subject: Re: Judge Orders I read Parole Rules to Client before they can be released from incarceration Lycoming County Warning: This is an external email. Please exercise caution. Think Before You Click! That is infuriating. Good idea from Dave Crowley. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 21, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Dave R. Crowley <drcrowley@centrecountypa.gov> wrote: > > WARNING: The sender of this email could not be validated and may not match the person in the "From" field. > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > > Elizabeth, when our president judge came up with a similar rule I said fine but we are conflicting any revocation that comes out of this because you just made us a witness. the rule was rescinded. > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Elizabeth Wood <ewood@columbiapa.org> > Date: 7/21/21 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: chiefdefenders@pdap.simplelists.com > Subject: Judge Orders I read Parole Rules to Client before they can be > released from incarceration > > **** This email originated from a source outside of Centre County's > network. Please use caution before clicking on links and opening > attachments. **** > > Under Koger reasoning the Judge ordered me to go to the jail and read my client his parole rules as a condition of his release from jail. I argued that this does not fall under Koger as this is not a sentencing. Additionally, I am not the enforcer of the rules and have not done that nor should I do that. He said if I do not do it my client will not get out of jail my choice. What can I do about this? Can I appeal this? If I read him the rules as Im planning on doing so my client does not remain incarcerated can I still appeal? I should note this does not happen to other attorneys. 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